Hopefully the title wasn't too deceptive. In this case, I wanted to update on a couple different things, but the two topics aren't really related.
First of all, Memorial weekend, part of our family went to our first goat show of the year! You can read a run-down Here, but I will say that all of us children won 2nd in our showmanship division along with a few other wanted placings such as 3x1st, and then a kid of mine won Junior Rec. Grade Reserved Champion.(That was fun!) We enjoyed a good time together and with our friends. Though definitely not the point of the trip, my highlight was challenging and talking with a few other "teens". We talked about dating, some theological points, and growing up under the law vs. under grace etc....
Secondly, a couple of weeks ago I did an interview with fellow blogger Casey Herringshaw on the subject of modesty. I am posting it here also:
Why do you as a young man, value modesty?
As a young man committed to physical and emotional purity for my future wife, a woman dressing modestly is a help to me. It keeps me from having to look away from the immodesty and promiscuity making life just a little easier! My future wife will thank the ladies who dressed modestly so as not to cause a stumbling block. A woman who dresses modestly shows not only that she is aware and cares for the heart of men, but also she cares about her husband and is staying faithful to him by not revealing herself to others. Thank you to each woman out there who dresses with propriety and modesty.
So many young women like to flaunt their bodies for attention. How do you avoid it when we are surrounded by it everywhere?
It is very difficult to avoid all the immodesty when it is simply everywhere. However, daily prayer regarding the matter and asking God to protect my eyes and heart as I go out is key. Gratefully, I have a momma and six sisters who are aware of ladies who are dressed immodestly and immediately let me know “Don’t look over to you left!” or something similar. Because of my passion for keeping my heart, mind, and soul pure before God and for my future wife (if the Lord wills), when I see a woman dressed immodestly, I divert my eyes and look else where. If I find myself in a situation where I am in a group with an immodestly dressed woman, I may excuse myself discreetly. Another option: dismissing myself was not appropriate at a wedding I recently attended, so I strategically placed myself so I was not face to face with immodesty.
Can modesty be taken too far, become an obsession in your opinion?
Modesty is an issue of the heart. In our family, we have traveled the journey of being more focused on the outward appearance of modesty and overlooking the heart of modesty. I don’t know if modesty was an “obsession”, but it did seem to become it’s own law: an idol in itself.
“But now we have been delivered from the law, having died to what we were held by, so that we should serve in the newness of the spirit and not in the oldness of the letter.” Romans 7:6
We as Christians, should be living in the Holy Spirit and following His leading. The focus of modesty is to please the Lord through our dress, it is not about the law.
What does it mean to you when you see young women modestly clothed?
When I see women, young and old alike, who are dressing modestly, I want to go right up and thank them. First, they are following what they find in scripture and seeking to be obedient to the leading of the Holy Spirit.
“In like manner also, that the women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with propriety and moderation…” 1 Timothy 2:9
Second, by dressing modestly, they are protecting the young men who might otherwise fall into lust and sin. By not being a stumbling block to young men, they are protecting them, as well as saving themselves for their future husband.
If you could talk with the lost young women of today’s society, what would you want them to know? Besides salvation or the need for Christ, what would you tell them about how they dress and what it communicates?
Men are wired visually. God made us that way. When a woman is dressed immodestly and flaunting her body, this causes a huge problem for a man. Men are drawn to the figure of a woman’s body, and when ladies are showing everything, this is prime opportunity to lust. Lust is no small issue. Matthew 5:28 says:
”But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.”
Adultery! That is what lust is. Whether or not women admit to this, they know when they are dressing to attract attention and at a minimum, visually seduce a man. It hurts my heart because they are causing big trouble for men. Men are being defiled because of the way women are dressing. Most guys like the “easy girls”, but for a young man who is saving himself for his future wife and striving to lead a life of purity, this is damaging and unappreciated… For a married man who is living faithfully to his wife and guarding his heart against the seductions of the world, having immodest women all over is potentially damaging and unappreciated!
On a note to the women: dressing to attract male attention is not what your heart really yearns for. Dressing for men to admire you is shallow and will leave you empty. You are attracting the wrong attention. Men who are attracted to you or pretend to “love” you based on your ability to visually seduce them are not men worth having. Their “love” is not true love and is cheaper than the penny tucked inside your pocket. These men are not worth a dime per dozen. Their love has nothing to do with who you are as a person, but about pleasing themselves. Seek modesty! Clothe yourself modestly! Love is not based on looks, but on the person beneath the looks.
Being pure plays a HUGE role in modesty, but not everyone is committed, why are you?
God created the relationship between a man and a woman to be sacred. The world has turned sex into cheap fulfillment and temporary pleasure. Genesis 2:24 says:
“Therefore, a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.”
Becoming one flesh isn’t something to take lightly. It is between ONE man and ONE woman! If God brings me a wife in the future, I certainly don’t want her to be one flesh with another man. And likewise, what woman wants a man who has been joined to another woman?
“..but be an example to the believers in the word, in conduct, in love, in spirit, in faith, in purity…” 1 Timothy 4:12
“Do not commit adultery” Exodus 20:14
In 1 Corinthians 6:18, Paul says: “Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body.”
Read the last half of 1 Corinthians chapter 6. Also, read 1 Corinthians chapter 7 and Matthew 5:27-32. Do a study on purity and sexual immorality in your Bible. Read what it has to say in God’s Word.
Cheap relationships, unfaithfulness, and broken hearts are an epidemic in our culture today. I see the damage that it causes. I see the emptiness as a result. I don’t want that for me or my future wife. I want a wife who has saved herself for her husband alone, who has protected her innocence, her heart, and her purity. Likewise, I am determined to give no less. By God’s grace, I am blessed to have parents who support and encourage living in purity. They have guided me and taught me in the way of the Lord, and been my earthly counselors.
I think of myself as a knight in a world full of evil: battling to keep myself from being corrupted and overcome by the sin of the world, pressing on to save a lady who is waiting patiently to be rescued. She has kept herself dutifully from being swayed by the forces of sin, and I want to be worthy of her.
You are obviously not just mouthing the words, you honestly believe them. Why are you so passionate on this topic?
The answer to this question lies in all the other answers shared. Basically, God is passionate about purity and modesty and so am I. The words “modesty” and “purity” ought not be confused with contemporary, youth-group buzz words like “virginity” and “abstinence”. Virginity is not the same thing as purity. Young men and women today can use those words, but they merely reflect something on the outside. Modesty and purity however, reflect the heart. It is real to me and needs to be real for all of us…we need to encourage one another because it is a lie to think that you can be pure while dressing immodestly. A lady who says she is pure, yet does not dress herself modestly and with propriety cannot be taken seriously or respected. What is on the outside is merely a reflection of the inside. Immodesty is greatly impacting our culture today. Each day, God presses deeper in my heart the need for modesty in our world, and the passion grows as a result. Consider God’s holy Word. Take a stand to dress modestly for the sake of honoring the Lord Jesus, and practice “…doing good (to your husband) all the days of your life”…starting now! (Proverbs 31:12)
Thanks again Casey for the chance to do this interview!
God Bless,
16 comments:
Great interview Josh. Question though, if a girl (or a guy for any girls reading) has given herself to someone outside of marriage, would you say that totally disqualifies her even if they have truly repented of that sin? Granted the preferred option for a spouse is that they have never given themselves to another person, but unfortunately that is not always the situation, even for those who are truly seeking the Lord.
Excellent post! Thank-you for posting the interview.
God Bless,
Kelsey
"Their love has nothing to do with who you are as a person, but about pleasing themselves."
Really good point. Good interview.
awesome post! Thanks for sharing that! I have often told myself I don't want a guy who goes for the "easy girls" but one who truly values who I am.
Thanks again!
~Blessings~
Yet again, well done! In a world where there are so few people saving themselves(in every way) it's so beautiful to see someone still waiting for their future spouse. Thank you for sharing your interveiw and your beliefs. Thank you for your passion on the whole subject of purity and modesty. Seeing others who have the same convictions as me is...so very helpful. :)
with love,
Skye
Another excellent post, Josh - fantastic interview. I just wanted to make one point that young men often seem to misunderstand. Just because a young lady dresses immodestly, does not necessarily mean her goal is to attract the attention of men. I know young women who have dressed immodestly, and when someone explained what this does to men, they felt much remorse and grief over it. A strong indicator is their body language- which can be seductive no matter how they are dressed. Believe me- there are MANY Godly young ladies whose dress causes men to stumble- and they have NO idea. So-women who know better- tell them! This will show the true motives of their heart. I am so thankful someone finally told me.Thanks for listen to my ramblings! Mikayla
reply to Daniel and Mikayla:
Daniel - Well, if we are disqualified because of previous sin in our lives, I'm definitely disqualified, and I'm sure you are as well. Obviously it is good to cry out to God for help to remain pure, but if we mess up and truly repent, we are never truly disqualified in God's book. 1 John 1:9 says "if we confess our sins" (even "serious" sins) "he is faithful and just and WILL forgive us our sins and purify us from unrighteousness" (emphasis mine). Rahab the prostitute was listed in the hall of faith in Hebrews 11. Obviously, after true repentance, there is forgiveness. :) I would recommend reading When Dreams Come True by Eric and Leslie Ludy to learn about the reconciliation and redemption in their BEAUTIFUL love story. :)
Mikayla - Very good point. I thought of this as well as I read this wonderful post. I think it's just because to guys, it's so obvious how clothing affects their minds, they assume we all know it as well.
But to girls, clothing does not affect us in that way, and most of us have not been taught how much it affects guys. Most girls simply dress the way they do because they notice more positive attention from guys (although they don't know the extent of why they are receiving the attention), or probably more commonly because everyone else is dressing that way. Honestly, I have Christian friends who wear super short shorts and I just kind of wince thinking what my good Christian guy friends are thinking. My girlfriends don't even know how they're making them struggle. I've tried mentioning it to a couple of them. One of them said, "Well, if guys are stumbling because of what I'm wearing, that is their problem, not mine." What a horrible perspective. A lot of young ladies take this viewpoint ignorantly though! I guess that's why posts like these are super helpful showing how much godly men truly appreciate modesty.
Thanks again for this post.
Stephanie,
That is totally true, and I'm "fine" with it, I was just curious what Josh, and others too, thought because of, I believe, part of his answer to the second to last question. He seemed quite firm on that it was not something he was even willing to consider. I can't quite remember which now lol. It does not bother me in the least, so long as repentance is there, though of course I wish it wasn't so. And I don't want to be too blunt in case of younger readers, but I mean have been really with another person outside of marriage.
Thanks so much for your post!
Josh,
It has been such a treat to read this interview! It's so encouraging to me, as a wife and mother of three, to read about a young man passionately pursuing purity. This CAN be done. My husband and I are working to teach our children about modesty and the heart issues behind it. We fight a daily battle to keep our hearts, minds, and eyes pure and in this day and age, it is difficult. My extended family has been torn apart because of men who have not "made a covenant with their eyes" - as Job did, "not to look lustfully on a woman." Modesty is very important. As you pointed out, the heart drives it. It's a heart issue. I am praying that God will keep you pure and that His Spirit will strengthen you. Keep fighting the good fight! God is honored. For the eyes of the LORD move to and fro throughout the earth that He may strongly support those whose heart is completely His.
Wonderful interview Josh! Absolutely wonderful! I can't tell you how encouraging it is as a Momma of 3 boys to see a young man such as yourself passionately following the Lord! (I also had the pleasure of "meeting" your twin sister and your mom - you come from an awesome family!)
I look forward to reading your blog even more!
Hi Josh,
Thank you for posting this encouraging interview. It is so nice to know that my brothers aren't the only guys who appreciate modesty!
I know you had done a post on femininity, and you had brought up the issue of wearing pants. In case you're interested, yesterday Jasmine Baucham addressed that in the comment section of her latest blog post.
Blessings,
Becca
Hey Josh,
I'm a new blogger on here, and a fellow Christian. Sir, I am deeply impressed by your blog, what you have to say about God, and your devotion to staying pure. And even with your profession of faith, you still have a lot of followers on your blog. This is exciting to me as I am trying to put up poetry on my blog as an artistic way of expressing my faith in Jesus. If ever you could stop by my blog and give me some pointers on how to use a blog, or any feedback I would greatly appreciate it. You're 16 and you have made such a strong impression on me with your faith. Thank you.
Great interview, Josh. :P
Thanks again for doing it with me!!
I have a question for you, how would you define Romans 7:6? The context in which you used it seemed possibly out of place of what that verse means, what exactly do you think is meant by that verse?
Marie M.
Josh--
I just stumbled upon your blog and I am BLOWN AWAY! :) What a wonderful young man of God you are! I am only 17 and to see, especially a young man close to my age this advanced and set in his values brings me great hope! :) Keep it up!
My blog is... www.highschoolcatholic.blogspot.com
God Bless,
Ashley
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